Curse

bryzan9999 · Jul 24, 2008, 01:03 PM // 13:03

[Soldier;OQISQ5KT3lXF8EjafamaLOrG]

This is my Build that i made and i think it might be decent. I have tried this out around eye of the north (outpost) and have had some success with it. So let me know what you think. The weapons you need are just a regular perfect sundering or furious sword and a tactics shield. The armor is mostly whatever you want (i have a mix of radiant, vitae, and a few odd balls.) The "to the limit" is optional u could insert a heal or something, but i use it for the quick boost of Adrenaline, so the dragon slash can be spammed faster. Try it out and tell me if you like it.

Thanks, Bryzan

Panais · Jul 24, 2008, 02:03 PM // 14:03

no self heal, no res.
u dont have any KD so why do u have steelfang?, theres skills with a bigger attack boost.

from what i see u will start by using skill 1, then skill 4, then your 2 shouts, then u will hit them with your 3 attack skills, use condition removal whenever possible, and spam your shouts to keep your stance up.

so u have high dps, for about 5 secs, then your energy is gone, so soldiers strike will be used whenever u will have energy, but u wont have any energy because u will be spamming your shouts to keep your stance up, so u will be left with only 2 attack skills and a condition removal.

so basically its a fail build for me becuase u are using 3 skills to keep 1 other skill up forever, but that removes all your energy, so u cant use one of your attack skills as often as u want, so your idea of keeping soldiers defense up forever limits your dps, and u have no self heals and no rez.

Ghostcell · Jul 24, 2008, 02:06 PM // 14:06

you need to post up the attributes also, but ummm yeah it needs a lot of improvement - just being honest.
search for d-slash sy - can never go wrong with it.

Samra · Jul 24, 2008, 02:11 PM // 14:11

No IAS either. Huge DPS loss there.

Tyla · Jul 24, 2008, 02:13 PM // 14:13

No IAS.

Dwarven Stability only makes stances last longer, not shouts. Using it for Soldier's Stance is kind of wierd, as it can be maintained for the majority of the time.

Soldier's Slash, Stance and Steelfang are all redundant, Steelfang without any KD.

Not even a deep wound.

Enraging Charge > "To The Limit" for quick adrenaline.

Sundering is a terrible mod for swords, go with vampiric with a zealous on switch if you reall need it. If you really want a furious mod you're best using a spear.

Risus · Jul 24, 2008, 02:44 PM // 14:44

If this is is PvE, just go Hundred Blades, Whirlwind Attack, Silverwing Slash.
You could take /Rt and use Splinter Weapon for maximum effect. IF so, take Dolyak Signet to tank the mobs.

Tyla · Jul 24, 2008, 02:47 PM // 14:47

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Originally Posted by Risus

IF so, take Dolyak Signet to tank the mobs.

SoA + PSpirit > Dolyak Signet.

Using Dolyak is wasting a skill slot when it can be used on something that can improve your damage output or help the party.

Crom The Pale · Jul 24, 2008, 03:18 PM // 15:18

The bar really isn't that bad, just replace Soldier's Stance with an IAS and "to the limit" with [brawling headbutt]

Snow Bunny · Jul 24, 2008, 03:30 PM // 15:30

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

The bar really isn't that bad, just replace Soldier's Stance with an IAS and "to the limit" with [brawling headbutt]

I agree completely.

Maybe throw Save Yourselves! somewhere, like instead of Dwarven Stability, but the bar's really not that bad.

oh damn i was wrong.

Ghostcell · Jul 24, 2008, 03:34 PM // 15:34

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

I agree completely.

Maybe throw Save Yourselves! somewhere, like instead of Dwarven Stability, but the bar's really not that bad.

It's quite obvious from the skillset that he's probably got (without runes) 12/12 in swords/strength, which is better than most warriors you'll see out there.

Just needs an IAS, like Flail, and Brawling headbutt I guess, and the build's pretty good-looking.

ummm, he doesn't use strength at all, none of his skills are strength and he specifies that he uses a tactics shield.
on a side not - that is (without runes) 12% armor penetration that he misses out on by going with tactics then strength also.

gunnmaster · Jul 24, 2008, 04:07 PM // 16:07

few skills really on other things like the person being knockeddown
and you don't have a skills that could knock them down

Bobby2 · Jul 24, 2008, 04:57 PM // 16:57

Either
your Monks suck $%^
or
you are simply not brave enough

Your DPS without IAS and less DS spammability than standard Godmode sucks a bit... I guess you only do about 60% of your potential damage output. Anything remotely Tactics should be ditched, [soldier's defense] is just a waste of a slot. Taking [dwarven stability] over [save yourselves]... even if your goal is tanking (in which case: [email protected]) surely you can see SY! is vastly superior in making your Monks' job easier.

And yea, using Steelfang without a KD is just a bit daft tbh.

MagicalHobo · Jul 24, 2008, 07:15 PM // 19:15

Also finding a place to fit in [Enduring Harmony] would also help you out (if you've ascended and are able to switch to /P). It will give an extra 10 seconds or so of [For Great Justice], so it may not be a bad idea to put on your bar.

_Nihilist_ · Jul 25, 2008, 03:30 AM // 03:30

Another "Please Help Me With a Sword Build" ends up with the inevitable DSlash/SY! build. Why? Because it works. Well. With very *few* exceptions. And that's what your teammates are for, taking care of the exceptions while you DPS and KD cartloads of mobs...

LunchboxOctober · Jul 31, 2008, 05:33 PM // 17:33

to be different how about [Hundred Blades] + [Whirlwind Attack] + [Sun and Moon Slash] + [Great Dwarf Weapon]?

Naturally that requires teamwork, but it sure is pretty. Throw in a conjure of your choice for added dps. They'll also be running like crazy so a water ele to snare them or taking along something like [Grasping Earth] to help keep them around you, especially since it doesn't require a lot of points to outlast it's recharge, and it's low cost / activation time makes it being interupted is not the end of the world.

Yea, it's gimmicky, but it sure is pretty.

MisterB · Jul 31, 2008, 07:36 PM // 19:36

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Originally Posted by LunchboxOctober

to be different how about [Hundred Blades] + [Whirlwind Attack] + [Sun and Moon Slash] + [Great Dwarf Weapon]?

Naturally that requires teamwork, but it sure is pretty. Throw in a conjure of your choice for added dps. They'll also be running like crazy so a water ele to snare them or taking along something like [Grasping Earth] to help keep them around you, especially since it doesn't require a lot of points to outlast it's recharge, and it's low cost / activation time makes it being interupted is not the end of the world.

Yea, it's gimmicky, but it sure is pretty.

You can't cast [Great Dwarf Weapon] on yourself, and it costs too much for a warrior to maintain.

[Hundred Blades] is bad, especially when you have [Dragon Slash] available. Not to mention [[Triple Chop]. [[Triple Chop] is better than [[Hundred Blades] any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

LunchboxOctober · Aug 01, 2008, 02:09 AM // 02:09

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Originally Posted by MisterB

You can't cast [Great Dwarf Weapon] on yourself, and it costs too much for a warrior to maintain.

Dude, re-read my post since you quoted it so nicely.

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Originally Posted by Me

to be different how about [Hundred Blades] + [Whirlwind Attack] + [Sun and Moon Slash] + [Great Dwarf Weapon]?

Naturally that requires teamwork, ...

There's usually more than one person on a team, I thought it was rather obvious that it required two people to use, but thank you very much for pointing out that gem to the rest of us. The reference to Triple Chop is all well and good, but this is a discussion on a sword build, and I never said it would be some sort of god-like build. It's a gimmick, and a damn fine one if you try it, say have a curses necro with you cast [Mark of Pain] and then [Great Dwarf Weapon] on the warrior. Or even an [Order of the Vampire] necro. And if you don't have a human player around you could just dust off [Splinter Weapon].

MagicalHobo · Aug 01, 2008, 04:36 AM // 04:36

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Originally Posted by Tyrael_Eveningsong

Another "Please Help Me With a Sword Build" ends up with the inevitable DSlash/SY! build. Why? Because it works. Well. With very *few* exceptions. And that's what your teammates are for, taking care of the exceptions while you DPS and KD cartloads of mobs...

If this is in response to my post, why wouldn't you bring Enduring Harmony with FGJ! if it's an option? Imo, an extra 10 seconds of FGJ! is nice. It doesn't make it another DSlash build.

**Marty Silverblade** · Aug 01, 2008, 04:51 AM // 04:51

He/She isn't saying that. It's just that Godmode builds (and good variants of it) are so abusively powerful that most of the time it's stupid to run other sword builds.

Notice how we started off with just DSlash, then someone added FGJ, then Brawling Headbutt, etc. Godmode is just too good, so it's what comes out of all these threads.

MagicalHobo · Aug 01, 2008, 04:53 AM // 04:53

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

He/She isn't saying that. It's just that Godmode builds (and good variants of it) are so abusively powerful that most of the time it's stupid to run other sword builds.

Notice how we started off with just DSlash, then someone added FGJ, then Brawling Headbutt, etc. Godmode is just too good, so it's what comes out of all these threads.

Ah, my mistake.